Abby and Robbie start the podcast talking about the massacre of Muslims in Christchurch, New Zealand, and the widespread culpability from those who have promoted Islamophobia.

TRIGGER WARNING: From thirty minutes on, there is very strong language describing sexual assault as they discuss the documentary “Leaving Neverland” and the evidence behind Michael Jackson’s child sexual-abuse allegations. They describe the film as a paradigm shift to understanding the grooming tactics of pedophiles and child molesters.

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