Interview with Activist Cindy Sheehan

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MEDIA ROOTS – This is a special 40 minute Media Roots Radio interview conducted by Abby Martin with Cindy Sheehan, mother who has made the ultimate sacrifice and fearless anti-war activist. She relays her powerfully lucid point of view in a candid interview at her home on .

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Brother Ali’s Indisputable Truth

ANTIQUIET – Music does not exist in a vacuum. As a tool of protest, of affection, of the myriad complexities of the human condition, music plays just an important role now as ever before in its ability to connect, inform and find grounds of empathy in a world of increased personal isolation as “social networking” becomes a term of digital prowess rather than genuine human interaction.

Some of those responsible for delivering personal-revolution street philosophy through song often have far more to say than even the malleable, undefined borders of music will allow, as we learned with Serj Tankian last Summer. In these moments, we excitedly set the music aside to dig into the heart of what drives the artist, with unfailingly fascinating result.

This was the case in our latest interview with Brother Ali. Over the span of six remarkable albums and an archive of underground material, Brother Ali’s one-love sermonizing has relentlessly rejected posturing and self-aggrandizing lyricism, opting instead for a unifying theme that’s delivered as a survivalist mandate in a world of championed disconnect.

The Minneapolis rapper and Rhymesayers crew’s spiritual anchor has had a metamorphic year on the heels of his landmark Us album, with the loss of dear friend and label mate Michael Larsen, aka Eyedea, his pilgrimage to Mecca and a barrage of new changes, both personally and professionally. Almost two years after our last interview we caught up with the man to discuss the American perception of Islam, government seizures of music-site domains, the power of propaganda and much more.

In America, the broad-stroke perception of Islam and its practitioners is still held in a deeply unfavorable light. How does one counter the Fox News narrative with your own truth, when the other side is excitedly stoking the fires of anti-Muslim extremism?

There’s a propaganda machine that exists in our society. If you look at World War II times, the way that Japanese and German people were vilified in the media, all the way down to kids cartoons. Any group of people that were considered to be enemies of the society they would demonize, through news and movies and kids programs. Whether it’s Native Americans or Japanese, or the Russians in the ’80s, there was always a caricaturization built around an agenda. And then immediately after the Cold War, they started preparing us through the media to attack a new target. Suddenly Arnold Schwarzenegger’s onscreen going up against these terribly cold Arab Muslims who are taking hostages and all that stuff, creating this atmosphere where suddenly these are the new Hollywood bad guys. These are the new face of evil to Americans, and it’s a picture that’s deliberately painted.

Then 9/11 happened, and the line of reality and truth began to blur.

Then you have this obviously terrible, tragic event of 9/11. The unbelievable sadness to it, the loss of life and love, and there’s so much questionable stuff around it. I’m not one of these people who pretends to know what happened or didn’t happen, but there’s definitely a lot of seriously questionable circumstances around the whole thing. There’s clearly a campaign underway, that’s been going on for a while by the people in power, to negate Islam and Muslims. Usually that’s used to justify some type of injustice they’re planning, whether it be taking over Muslim countries and occupying them, taking control of their politics and their resources. That’s a really unfortunate reality in the world.

How is that negating impression countered, when the narrative’s already written and enthusiastically parroted by the biggest news outlet in the nation? Passivity rules the day…

Being good people, having a responsibility to look for and spread truth in every way, not just our own. Progressing a community by caring about truth and justice and fairness. Part of the social decline we’re facing is that we’re very, very passive about everything. It’s been by design. We’ve been bred to be very passive about the things that we eat, the things that we buy and the things that we use. It comes down to the way that we live, the information we take in. We don’t actively seek out information, we just allow whatever’s the loudest to dictate the narrative. In most major cities we’re down to one or two major newspapers, which are owned by the same conglomerates. Radio stations are all owned by the same parent companies, news stations are owned by two or three companies. It’s just really unfortunate, but that’s just one of a plethora of topics where we’re all just deeply uninformed on all of it, and it’s causing something of a subconscious bridge where we get all this information that Muslims are bad, and Islam is against us and our way of life, and Muslims hate our freedom and all that. It’s diametrically opposed to America’s values, they’re not the same kind of people we are, so on and so forth. It causes an unconscious acceptance of treating people bad, of denying people justice and due process and all these things that we say we believe in as Americans.

Now you see it on our soil too, where Muslims that are citizens of America aren’t granted the same basic rights of faith. But that’s nothing new, that’s something they did when they came and called the native people Indians and savages and did everything in their power to establish dominance. Then the slaves came over and they had ugly names for them too. Every group of people, it seems, falls into a necessary place or role when the power structure decides to prepare us mentally and spiritually to adjust to this injustice. To be okay with these things being done in our name, this oppression contracted out in the name of American values.

Given the government and media’s campaign of bullshit on the Wikileaks ordeal, it’s frightening how well that model of behavior commutes to other areas of focus. We’re in an amazing time in history, where the unification of the media seems so big and so scary, but public awareness is hitting an all-time high, and people are increasingly questioning the margin of truth in the reality being served to us. What’s your perspective on selective free speech, like the fact that Mastercard will still do business with the KKK, yet cuts ties with Wikileaks, people bringing the real light of truth to some of the most important world affairs – and lies – of our time?

Obviously I support people’s rights to speak and have access to the truth, and to promote it. There’s a really big fight going on with the net neutrality bill, and we’re facing the potential of control over the internet where everyday people don’t have the same platform on the internet as corporations. It’s interesting, with this whole thing there’s been a big sweep of websites by the Department of Homeland Security for those they consider to be criminal. With no warning, no communication, no due process. They seized their domains and shut down their sites, and it’s interesting that it happened to three major Hip-Hop blogs. It had nothing to do with anything political or anything like that, but the RIAA had them shut down because they helped artists leak materials and videos and such that’s not released yet. So the Department of Homeland Security, which is supposed to protect us from terrorism, seized a website called OnSmash.com. They leaked a new 50 Cent song and the new Joel Ortiz record, but what does that have to do with homeland security? How is that terrorism? The precedent that’s set by that is really amazing, really terrifying.

That’s terrorism in its own right.

Right. I had to file with the Department of Homeland Security when I went to Australia on tour. Our Australian show promoter wire transferred money for our shows to our bank accounts in Minneapolis, and the Department of Homeland Security froze that bank account and stopped the transfer. I had to register with them, give them my information, who I am & what I was doing, everybody that worked for me, my schedule, social security numbers, addresses, bank accounts, more things than you could believe. The froze everything up.

They told me that it was random. That the words Brother and Ali were red flag words, but I was made aware at the end of the whole ordeal that they were aware of the Uncle Sam Goddamn video.

Right around the time that video hit a million views, after I performed it on TV, that’s when that happened. I got kicked off a tour for that song, because it was sponsored by a big company. Got a lot of hate mail from guys named Chad, writing private MySpace messages back in the day. Guys with no shirts on and white baseball hats on backwards telling me “I’m gonna come to your show tonight and beat your ass.” I got a lot of that for probably about a year. And at my shows I’m always at the merch table… no ass kickings ever happened.

The thing is, nothing I say is really even that dangerous. I’m not even saying shit compared to like…

Zach De La Rocha, Immortal Technique

Yeah, not to mention Dead Prez, people who have bigger platforms and say a lot more than I do. I don’t consider myself a political artist, I haven’t made that my mission. I just have a few songs where I stated some things.

Speaking of statements, Cornel West made a comment that I’d like to expand on: “To embark on a quest for wisdom, one has to be open to the voice, viewpoint, and vision of others.” In a world geared more than ever to the me me me society, how does one not only lean against that tide, but radiate that to others?

It’s interesting, that’s something that’s actually been on my mind a lot lately. One of the people that Eyedea put me up on was this this philosopher Krishnamurti, who really dealt a lot with putting the ego aside to truly experience things. When you listen through the lens of your ego you’re not really listening, you’re not really experiencing. And that’s huge to me… it ties in well with Cornell West’s quote. I love Cornell West. I think with what I’m doing, I just try to communicate that way and listen that way, especially on the Us album. That was the first album that really wasn’t about me, it was more about the people that I know, and trying to tell their stories.

Religious individualism and the art of people truly listening to each other is dying.

A major problem, as you pointed out, is that we are not actively participating in solutions.

Everything is passive in our society. For the majority of people, there’s a few activist, but even the majority of them may not be as informed or as pure in direction as they would have us believe. Like the Tea Party scene. It appears to be a group of activists, but there’s two brothers that essentially own that movement…

The Koch brothers…

Yeah. They’re funding the movement, and these Tea Party activists are just sheepishly repeating this narrative that somebody’s given them, talking points meant to mislead and start fires of anger. Not very much is active in our society – we’re very passive, very inactive. I definitely agree with what you’re saying, in social media being a platform for people to narcissistically splatter out whatever feelings they have in that moment, and really feel like something’s being done with a Facebook update or a tweet.

That’s the problem with clicktivism – it creates a dangerous false sense of contribution, a momentum based on parroting points for social status rather than planting a real flag of truth and living the truth you’re seeking. That stifles progress on all meaningful fronts.

We’ve been programmed that way over the last few generations. That’s not a mistake and that’s not a coincidence. It’s not something that’s happened on its own. It was a very deliberate effort on behalf of those who really control things. And it’s undoubtedly an intimidating factor when you can watch the sponsorship money and general attention will shift away, go elsewhere when there’s any sign of going against that tide.

You tweeted about the Best MCs argument, saying “Best For who? Best for the people is Chuck D.” That’s one musical revolutionary who’s paved the way for bands like Rage Against The Machine, helped set the groundwork for people like you and Immortal Technique. In a very real way, he’s passed the torch on to you on record by doing the introduction track on Us. Do you see the direct lineage between Public Enemy’s activist mentality and your own?

Definitely. Being fortunate enough to become friends with him gave me confirmation of that. I got to hear him say “You’re doing what you can to continue what we were doing.” Those men are the ones that made me serious about this music and made me realize what the possibilities it held were. Not that I went into this thinking that I was going to be a part of some social movement, but I know that they affected the way that I thought, the way I wanted to live, my aspirations and what kind of person I am.

I remember being a kid in a 99% white Michigan suburb, getting absolutely floored by Public Enemy’s Can’t Truss It song. That one track blew the doors open for me in terms of what it means to tell a truly powerful, incendiary story through song and apply it to real social issues. The way Chuck draws a direct line between the injustice and oppressed rage of slaves from long ago and the racial struggles that still exist today was an inspiring and humbling eye-opener about the real power of music.

That’s what it’s about, connecting just like that and giving people new eyes on something they might only have a certain familiarity with at the moment. Chuck, KRS-One, even people I look back on as an adult, these other guys who were on something really deep and special back when I was 14. Back then it was just kind of a bunch of cool words. But those words hit me, they made me want to know what they were talking about. It made me read, it made me research, it inspired me to dig deeper. That stuff showed me the real power of what this culture can be and what this art form can be.

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Article 19 – Communication is Your Right!

MEDIA ROOTS– Every issue around the world can only be truly communicated with unfettered access to media sources. Without an informed citizenry on the issues that impact our lives, there can be no true representation for the people. I believe communication is a human right, which is why I am organizing for a campaign called Communication is Your Right!, an advocacy campaign based on Article 19 of the United Declaration of Human Rights. 

Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights reads: “Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.” 

On December 10, 1948 the United Nations adopted The Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Today in 2010, more than 60 years later, entire groups of people still don’t have access to factual news and information in order to better their lives, community and country and make a positive impact in this world.  

I speak with Larry Cox, the executive director of Amnesty International USA about Article 19 and why the human right to communicate is so essential in the fight for human rights.

 

I speak with Denis Moynihan from Democracy Now! about Article 19 and the current media landscape.

 

GLOBALVOICESCommunication is Your Right! recently interviewed Larry Cox, Executive Director of Amnesty International USA, who said that freedom of expression is central to the fight for human rights. “People need to understand that communication is a right, and it’s a right that is not being fulfilled at all,” he said. “That’s what it’s all about, because if people can’t express themselves, they can’t protest any issues that are going on.”

Communication is Your Right! is a platform for media makers, human rights advocates, and citizens around the globe to speak their truths. 

“When people are trying to use power in the wrong way the first people they go after are journalists,” Cox said. More than 267 cases of journalists being threatened, arrested, killed, or disappeared are tracked on Global Voices Project Threatened Voices, which states “Never before have so many bloggers been imprisoned.” These numbers are unacceptable- not only because being able to communicate is vital to changing our lives and community- but because it is a human right.

Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the human right to communicate, makes threatening and silencing citizens for communicating their thoughts a human rights violation. Article 19 reads, “Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”

On the front page of our site is a petition demanding that the United Nations take the Human Right to Communicate seriously. “With the profound changes happening in the way people connect and share information, now more than ever it’s important to protect that right to connect and share,” explains Matthew Schroyer, a journalist  from www.MentalMunition.com and Communications is Your Right! organizer. “If you can’t protect that right, then you can’t protect a democracy.”

The Communication is Your Right! petition also states that the consolidation of media companies is damaging to universal communication and without stronger UN support global communication rights none of their Millennium Goals will be achieved.

We urge people to exercise their right to communicate with a blog, podcast or video and submit your work to this campaign. We would like citizens around the world to reflect on why they haven’t been heard by their larger community. Does corporate media allow you a platform? How is government control and media policy stifling free speech in your community? These questions need reflection and we must act together to create solutions.

We are building a decentralized campaign of media makers, media reformers and human rights advocates that are working together to network with organizations, speak with our communities, and create media about Article 19. “We need a communication revolution in order to have a human rights revolution,” says Abby Martin, founder of www.MediaRoots.org and Communications is Your Right! organizer.

To join our mission to advocate for people around the world to openly and fully communicate, visit our “Organizing Together” page to learn how to become an organizer and share this campaign’s message.

Written by Abby Martin, Mera Szendro Bok and Matthey Schroyer from www.CommunicationisYourRight.org

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TSA, Bush’s Book, Flotilla Attack, Dr. Paul Larudee

Media Roots Radio- TSA, Bush’s Book, Flotilla Attack and Interview with Dr. Paul Larudee by Media Roots

MEDIA ROOTS – On this week’s episode of Media Roots Radio, Robbie and Abby Martin talk about the new TSA procedures and privacy violations, Bush’s book tour and the media giving him a pass, and analyze the WhatTheFuckHasObamaDoneSoFar website.

On the second half of the show we talk about the Israeli and Palestinian conflict and air a forty minute interview with Dr. Paul Larudee, a San Francisco Bay Area human rights advocate for justice in Israel and Palestine. He works with the International Solidarity Movement and the Free Palestine Movement, and was cofounder of the Free Gaza Movement.  He was onboard the Sfendoni, a ship of the Freedom flotilla attempting to bring humanitarian aid and contraband items to Gaza, when the ship was intercepted by Israeli forces. To listen to Dr. Paul Larudee’s full hour interview go HERE.

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MR Original – The Minds Behind Rap News

Robert Foster about to be dragged off the Rap News set by Giordano Nanni and Julian AssangeMEDIA ROOTS– An age-old question among activists and the media is how to grab an audience’s attention and hold it. In a society accustomed to twitter feeds, blog hosting, sound bites and news that serves to either placate viewers with entertainment or alarm them beyond reason, knowing how to engage people on serious issues can be quite the challenge.

In order to reach a culture that is over saturated with sensationalism and new technology, one thing though, is for sure– you have to be creative.

Many people would rather be mindlessly entertained than learn about depressing news. So why not use entertainment to inform the masses?  Inspired to combine music and news-room journalism, two European expatriates living in Australia combined their powers of lyrically creative brilliance, comical acting and historical and political knowledge to form the eccentric character Robert Foster– host of Rap News.

From the initial looks of it, Rap News appears to be a one-man show with a series of goofy wigs and costume changes that turn Hugo Farrant from anchorman Robert Foster into multiple other entertaining characters featured in each episode. Yet, upon closer listening, the creativity of the report’s content and lyrics reveal the wit and intellect of Giordano Nanni, the composer, editor, director and researcher who co-writes the episodes with Hugo.

As a team, Hugo and Giordano take on important issues facing the world and critically frame them with ingenious, cutting lyrical verse, all the while using humor to relay their message. For example, their latest episode Rap News vs. News World Order, in which Wikileaks’s Julian Assange made a live debut, Robert Foster wrapped up the show with these words- 


It seems, journalism’s become a dangerous profession

Risking ostracism, extradition

To provide a clear picture of the world we live in

But without truth, history will certainly repeat.

The same wars, in this time of universal deceit,

Telling the truth has become a revolutionary act

So I salute those who disclose the necessary facts.


Some of our other favorite Rap News lyrics are from Obama Wins the Nobel ‘War is Peace’ Prize


Any serious examination leads to the raw truth

This isn’t a prize for Obama, it’s a prize for George Bush

Nobel’s message seems to  be War is Peace and it’s all well

When all is war, and didn’t we read that in Orwell?

Well, From the depths of doublethink and newspeak

This is Robert Foster, for Juice Media

Have a double plus good week. 


Julian Assange thinks these guys have got it right and so do we. Inspired by the duo, Media Roots reached out to the minds behind Rap News to learn how they started, what inspires them and what the future has in store for Robert Foster. 

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MR: Who are you both? What are your backgrounds?

Hugo: I’m an exile from the UK who left to find greener pastures, both creatively and socially, here in Australia. My background is in teaching, but my passion is rhyme writing and performance.

Giordano: I’m an exile from Italy who came to Melbourne about 8 years ago. My background is history—having studied and written on colonial history—but my various projects and activities embrace music, theatre, indy-journalism and film-making, etc.

MR: What caused your political awakening? What led you both to Australia and ultimately to finding each other?

Hugo: I wouldn’t describe myself as politically awakened. More politically curious, but lacking in discipline, and someone like Giordano has the requisite knowledge to satisfy my curiosity. I was always into bands like Rage Against the Machine back in the day, so I was aware of the potential of music to deliver political messages.

I was keen to participate in that style of art, but absolutely didn’t want to be another rapper complaining about things without the academic clout to back up the arguments. Giordano and I found each other through a mutual rock musician friend, and immediately bonded over shared interests in media, movies, music, conspiracy theories and Medieval Italian poetry.

Giordano: I think one of my first ‘political’ awakenings occurred when I was 18 or so; one of the (few) great teachers I had at University suggested I read Hidden Agendas by John Pilger. It shocked and blew me away at the time. It was one of the first books which sparked my awareness of what was happening in the world, and which alerted me to the vital importance of journalism therein.

But the awakenings have been ongoing since then. Relatively recently, during the 2008 presidential campaign I discovered Ralph Nader—thanks to the Internet and YouTube—not thanks to TV, interestingly enough. Hearing him speak was a real awakening, in the sense that I had long since given up placing any faith in the political process. Nader has taught me that politics can be a noble profession; it’s not that all politicians are bastards, but rather that most Americans seem to vote for the bastards rather than honest ones!

MR: I agree about Nader. How did Rap News come into fruition and why did you choose this approach?

Giordano: Rap News was born in late 2009 but its roots go back a bit further.

Hugo: It came about through resurrecting a ‘music journalism’ project, which Giordano had previously worked on—an audio precursor to Rap News. I heard about this and liked the idea, and asked if I might get involved. Once we sat down and planned, and decided that I would rap all the characters, it became clear that trying to be serious while wearing so many stupid wigs was probably unrealistic, so the comedy element came to the fore.

Giordano: Yeah, as George Bernard Shaw said, “If you’re going to tell people the truth, you better make them laugh; otherwise they’ll kill you”.

The news-room has become such a powerful and globally recognized icon of knowledge and information: everything is offered daily, to millions of viewers, as ‘the truth’. Rap News appropriated this device but tries to shine a little light on some of the unspoken premises that prop up the cultural fictions regurgitated daily by the mainstream news networks. Back in the days when I still bothered watching TV news, I often felt an irresistible urge to shout back at TV set in frustration. Now Robert Foster provides a channel for that outlet! I guess this also inspired our approach to delivering the news.

MR: Hugo is an extremely good rapper and the rhymes in Rap News are incredibly informative, intelligent and cutting. Have you always used hip-hop as a form of poetic expression and when did you begin incorporating political commentary into your rapping? How long have you been performing publicly?

Hugo: Thanks for your feedback! The informative and intelligent nature of the rhymes comes from Giordano. He provides the ‘juice’ of the dialogue, the research to back it up, and is responsible for all the most cutting elements of each episode. Rumsfeld saying, ‘We’ll write the history books’ as a prime example.

My job is to make the thing rhyme and flow, and put in a bit of puerile humor, as well as over-act! My own rap persona is much less popular than Rap News, but yes, I do perform at festivals and venues in Australia, both with Treats­—an excellent DJ—and with the rising live band ‘Dub The Magic Dragon’, touring India, March 2011.

My stage name is Hugo, but political listeners will not find much juice there—now that I am involved with Rap News, I prefer to wax philosophical, comical and spiritual in my solo work, and leave the political content to a properly researched forum such Rap News.

Giordano: Hugo is being characteristically modest: He is in fact very well known, and highly appreciated, in Melbourne, for rocking audiences and making a real impact on people’s lives through his art. 

 

MR: Your two latest videos seem to have a more professional production than your first couplethe lower third text scroll, the Fox news graphics, etc. Are more people offering to help or are you just refining your skills together?

Giordano: Ever since we launched Rap News, people have offered to help us by offering to donate their talent and skills to the show. Probably one of most rewarding results has been witnessing all this willingness to contribute. As suggested to me by someone who truly understands this—Julian Assange—this willingness to contribute is one of the benefits of promoting a shared value. People want to lend their skills and play a part in it.

Ironically, however, we’ve never been too concerned with trying to look pro: the bedroom-studio-feel being a faithful reflection of the means and time at our disposal—a reminder that anyone can potentially do this.

We started off simply by borrowing cameras and making do with what we had at hand. Our backdrops were bed sheets and the lighting rig comprised an array of six, tenuously balanced desk-lamps. We incorporated new stuff gradually—like the green-screen background—and I am slowly getting a lot better and faster at editing, even though I’m really still just hacking it.

But to answer your question: we decided to call upon reinforcements for the latest News World Order episode because we really needed to replicate that familiar ‘official newsroom’ environment—saturated with useless information, artificially enhanced by fancy graphics, logos and slogans which distract and sedate and constantly blur the line between fact and fiction, information and entertainment. Such visual mayhem couldn’t have come about without the help of some skilled artists: Melbourne-based artist, Zoe Tame, in particular, worked hard to create all the images, replica logos and overlays; while others helped with tickertapes, animations and advice.

Oh and Zoe also designed the kick-ass website: www.TheJuiceMedia.com. So yeah, Hugo and I still do the vast majority of the work, but we’ve also benefitted immensely from the help of other people.

MR: What does the creation process of rap news look like? How long does it take to produce one videofrom the idea to the lyrics to the costumes, editing and graphics? How many people are involved in the production and what are their roles?

Hugo: A realistic minimum length of production is two weeks. That includes initial meetings and brainstorming, about 24 hours of writing—spread over a few days, and with several drafts winging back and forth between me and Giordano—recording is generally done in two sessions, we source the costumes from fancy dress shops, and the most fun day, as far as I’m concerned, is filming day, when we get to bring the audio to life on screen, and horse around. Then the real work begins in Giordano’s lab, where it all gets edited and tweaked until it’s ready to be unleashed.

MR: Are your videos getting viral just because they kick so much ass or are you getting some outside help with promotion and coverage?

Hugo: We try to keep the ass-kicking level to the highest degree.

We’re not affiliated with YouTube’s partner program, and so we never get ‘featured video’ status. We are regularly offered the opportunity to opt in for ‘revenue-sharing’, i.e. advertizing, but the prospect of earning a bit of money this way is outweighed by the desire to keep the Juice Media Rap News channel free of ads for our viewers

Having said that, we have managed to attract many excellent fans to the show, and they, along with some great contacts in the indy-media world, are responsible for spreading the clips far and wide. We really do feel very grateful to everyone who watches, comments, gets in touch, shares the link, and of course to the numerous people who have donated through the website since episodes 4 and 5 hit the sites.

MR: You incorporate many facts that are under reported by the mainstream, like the 1,000,000 dead Iraqis figure, and Obama’s continuation of Bush-era policies. Where do you guys go to for your informationwhat media outlets and organizations out there do you think are doing it right? I am assuming Democracy Now is one of themwith the product placement and all.

Giordano: There are many indy-news outlets which do a fantastic job—Media Roots being a good case in point—but there are very few large news organizations which I know about, that are doing it right.

As you’ve deduced so perceptively from Robert Foster’s choice of coffee mug, Democracy Now is definitely one of them. After years of following this show, I am still thrilled about what it does. I really feel a sense of responsibility for how much (and how little) I know about the world around me; so I really value this portal of information. For the past 2 years I’ve had them as my computer home page.

Amid the wasteland of mainstream journalism, Amy Goodman and the DN crew have set a proper standard for how ‘news’ ought to be delivered and debated. It’s an hour-long show, with in-depth interviews that truly elucidate subjects, which are not given anywhere near the attention that is due to them in the mainstream media. And, above all, they don’t waste broadcast time reporting on sports!! They are not entertainers and media hacks; and, most importantly, they are independently funded. I can trust them.

Other than this, I rely on links to website, articles by indy-journalists, and random bits of information that come my way.

MR: I couldn’t help but notice the play on the phrase “New World Order”. A lot of people think that the New World Order is an elite group of globalists embarking to take over every aspect of life on this planet. Others think it is simply a powerhouse of ideas and groups of people for the purpose of control and profit maximization. What do you guys think the New World Order is and why did you choose to portray O’Reilly/Fox as part of it?

Giordano: It’s a good question Abby.

We tend to think that many popular understandings of the ‘NWO’ are falsely premised on an externalized source of power. This is appealing, since it evokes that basic paradigm of good versus evil—and sure enough, we always identify as the goodies.

But let’s look at it this way: The two descriptions you provided for the NWO—‘a group of globalists embarking to take over every aspect of life on this planet’ and ‘a powerhouse of ideas and groups of people for the purpose of control and profit maximization’—could well apply to the general behavior of western/westernized society over the past six hundred years—some sections of that society of course benefitting more than others!

In this sense we are virtually all beneficiaries and patrons of the ‘NWO’ in one way or another; which makes the prospect of defeating it somewhat paradoxical—or hypocritical. It’s a fascinating issue and it goes to the very heart of what we’re trying to say. We’re actually planning an episode, which will focus precisely on this subject; hopefully it will make more sense expressed in rhyme! But it’s probably not going to be what most people expect to hear.

 

MR: I love the Wikileaks endorsement of Rap News. Did Assange reach out to you after seeing your work? How did you get him in the flesh for your recent video?

Giordano: Julian really loved the first Rap News episode we did on Wikileaks, Wikileaks v. The Pentagon, in which Hugo impersonated Assange as a quirky, matrix-like trickster.

Subsequently, ahead of Wikileaks’ latest historic disclosure of 400,000 documents relating to the Iraq war, Julian made contact with us and invited us to take a sneak peak at some of the Iraq War Logs in view of informing the content of a new episode.

Of course, we jumped at the opportunity and were aboard planes within a fortnight. We arrived in London only two weeks prior to the scheduled launch of the Iraq War Logs, on October 23, which meant that we faced the absurd and terrific challenge of writing, recording and filming an entire episode in under 4 days—a stunt we pulled thanks to the invaluable help of two awesome Wikileaks crew-members, and thanks to our friend and supporter back in Melbourne, Asher—aka Mama Wolf.

As for the cameo, we asked Julian straight up, thinking that his appearance might be a historic and comedic event—not just for Wikileaks and Rap News, but for that demographic of the internet community which has been so avidly following what’s going on with Wikileaks. Despite a couple of initial raised eyebrows, Julian was totally up for it. We didn’t pull any punches on the gags, either. Thankfully the man has a great sense of humor.

MR: Awesome! What issues today are of greatest concern to you both?

Giordano: I wouldn’t know where to start; all the seemingly separate issues, which I could list, are really interconnected. I am deeply concerned about environmental issues, but I don’t think it’s just about energy use.

If I had to choose one central issue, I’d point to the ongoing treatment of, and attitude towards, ‘Indigenous’ cultures on this planet, which represents an ongoing war on alternative philosophies of life. I think there’s a strong correlation between this war and the multiple problems we face today—especially the devastation of our environment. 

Hugo: For my part, modern humanity’s general belief in separateness is probably my over-arching concern. We have spent centuries alienating ourselves from the planet, which gave birth to us, and separating ourselves from each other, along barely relevant racial and cultural lines. We now face the dramatic, inevitable consequences of our desire for separateness. But if reading philosophy has brought me any concrete conclusion at all, it is that ultimately, and in a very real sense, as Neil deGrasse Tyson asserts, ‘we are all connected’. By perceiving our connectedness, even to the aspects of life we judge as negative, I strongly believe that true lasting evolution can take place. Rejecting and excluding those aspects only leads to their perpetuation.

MR: What are some of your biggest musical, poetic and political inspirations?

Hugo: Too numerous to mention, but in terms of comedy, certainly the great, great Bill Hicks, the guys behind South Park and Team America, Chris Morris for his incredible work on Brass Eye and The Day Today, and of course, the 90’s BBC comedy The League of Gentlemen—if we could get access to their make-up department, I’d be one happy over-actor.

As for hip hop, my top inspiration is now-defunct but never surpassed French outfit Saian Supa Crew, and from Australia, close friends and personal heroes, DJ Treats, Julez, Mantra and Elf Tranzporter.

And as far as literature goes, it’s all about Dante Alighieri and Jonathan Swift. Gulliver’s Travels is a satire broader than any before or since, and is the benchmark against which all such work must be measured.

Giordano: My mind has been blown, and my soul nourished, by many more powerful and precious sources of musical and poetic inspiration than I can even mention—from William Blake and Leopardi, to Pink Floyd, Roger Waters in particular, to Rage Against the Machine; from comedians Bill Hicks and George Carlin—who saved my life by revealing the comedy of it all—to writers like George Orwell, Jorge Louis Borges and Herman Hesse, who have been guiding lights.

As for political inspiration, I listen carefully to what Noam Chomsky and Ralph Nader have to say these days, while they’re still with us.

MR: Do you hope to team up or collaborate with any other political or media players in the future?

Hugo: The beauty of the project is that we don’t really need to. If we want someone in the show, like Donald Rumsfeld, we can just come up with a poor impersonation of him and get some laughs out of the hokiness of it. Nevertheless, we’re always open to offers, and when the possibility of that episode 5 cameo was mooted, we jumped at it. So the answer is, ‘definitely’; but in the meantime, we’ll just keep doing the bad wig, bad accent, bad hand gestures thing.

MR: What else is in store for Juice Media and Rap News? Are you planning any other projects or just focusing on these segments for now?

Hugo & Giordano:  We’re really going with the flow here, working during the glitches of our less-adventurous lives. TheJuiceMedia will continue it’s less glamorous but highly valuable purpose of broadcasting Indigenous, Aboriginal Australian voices to a wider local and international audience. We’ll keep developing Rap News, exploring the vastness of topics and narratives, which are out there begging to be translated into rhyme and reason. We hope that Robert Foster’s voice might one day become an important one. Stay tuned.

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Rap News vs News World Order ( Wikileaks and the War on Journalism)

 

Rap News: Obama Wins Nobel War is Peace Prize


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Written by Abby Martin and Alicia Roldan

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